When it comes to church vitality, many people assume that attendance numbers tell the whole story. Randy Pope, founding and lead teaching pastor of Perimeter Church, sees the situation differently. “We should be thinking not so much about church growth as we are about church health,” Pope says. In the latest installment of PCA Voices, Pope – who has served Perimeter for nearly 40 years – shares some insights into what makes a healthy church.

Pope spoke with byFaith at the 2016 General Assembly in Mobile, Alabama.